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Court backs EU citizens' spouses

The European Union's top court has ruled that non-EU nationals married to EU citizens are entitled to live in their spouse's country.
The court overruled a law in the Republic of Ireland, which grants residency only to those who have previously lived in an EU member state.

The European Court of Justice had studied the cases of four non-EU nationals married to Irish citizens.
It said the Irish refusal of residence permits contradicted an EU directive.
"The right of a national of a non-member country who is a family member of a Union citizen to accompany or join that citizen cannot be made conditional on prior lawful residence in another member state," the ruling said.

"The (EU) Directive applies to all Union citizens who move to or reside in a member state other than that of which they are a national, and to their family members who accompany them or join them in that member state."

The case against the Irish justice ministry was brought by four African men married to EU citizens resident in Ireland. The men had been refused residence permits.
The court said the host member state "is, however, entitled to impose penalties, in compliance with the Directive, for entry into and residence in its territory in breach of the national rules on immigration".


It was about time. From 2005 until now, any non-Irish-but-EU-citizen married to a non-EU citizen has usually spent over 6 months without documents, and anxious whether being approved or not. Of my friends, those who rushed usually got refused.

Several of my friends married to non-EU citizens, resident here once, were denied this. Even when the spouse is American and the EU-spouse is British...

Incredibly enough, M got the the residency. After 14 months... when it is already too late.
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Ireland's all EU-non-Irish & Non-EU spouse visas were frost for practically a year for 'Kumar' case. At least there is now more info about it.

Thus, an Indian married to a European; he had first applied for an asylum in Belgium, was refused it, then went to UK for 3 years illegally, and got to Ireland, applied for an asylum, got married, lied in all immigration documentation telling he had left India in January 2006 and had never been abroad or out of India before that, and after all the lies kept changing his story, and this delayed thousands of other visa applications being made a decision.

I hope it will be possible to sue Kumar and Department of Justice of Ireland for the lost income for every single day anyone's visa application resolution was delayed from the legal maximum time limit of 6 months.

More about the Kumars, a lot more details.
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02 September 2007 @ 06:27 pm
Thousands of couples get deportation notice letters

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2007/0830/1188336381381.html

Thousands of couples get deportation notice letters

Thousands of married couples have been issued with notices of intention to deport non-EU spouses, The Irish Times has learned. Kitty Holland reports.

The situation has emerged following a High Court ruling in June which said the Department of Justice was within its rights to insist non-EU spouses of EU citizens must live in another member state before residing here.

The European Commission has confirmed it is investigating the stance taken by the Department of Justice and said that it has received "numerous" complaints from couples affected by the court ruling.

Couples are being issued with "Section 3" letters informing the non-EU spouse that "the Minister proposes to make a deportation order in respect of you" on the grounds of being "unlawfully present in the State".

The letter gives the recipient three options - to leave the State voluntarily, to consent to being deported or to make representations to "remain temporarily in the State" within 15 days.

The Immigrant Council of Ireland (ICI) says it has "about 750 cases" of couples in this situation.

"And that is just those that have come to our offices," says Catherine Cosgrave, legal officer with the ICI. "There will be others going to Citizens Advice Centres, the Migrant Rights Centre and solicitors."

In an unpublished ruling, seen by The Irish Times in June, Mr Justice Michael Hanna said the Department of Justice was intra vires in demanding that non-EU spouses of EU citizens reside legally in another member state before being eligible for residency here.

The case is being appealed to the Supreme Court. The solicitor taking the case, Derek Stewart, said his office was receiving "about 15 cases a day" from couples with "Section 3" letters.

The Department of Justice insists it is correctly implementing the terms of SI 656/2006, introduced in April last year, which lays down that non-EU family members of an EU citizen must reside lawfully in another EU state before being permitted to work and live here. This was introduced despite a directive from the EU introduced three years ago, 2004/38/EC, which says non-EU family members of EU citizens should be automatically permitted to work and live in the EU.

Ms Cosgrave said that the notices were being issued against couples who had married in Ireland.

She believes the measures are being taken to stamp out so-called "marriages of convenience".

A spokeswoman for the Department of Justice said all non-EU spouses who failed to satisfy SI 656 would get "Section 3" letters.

Those who had been in the country legally at the time of their wedding could "contact their local immigration office with a view to regularising their status in the State by renewing their original permission to remain".

Those who were here illegally when they married, however, "are unlawfully present here". They could make representations to the Minister to be allowed to stay on humanitarian grounds.

© 2007 The Irish Times
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Today when I was in the bus to work, I heard at the local Irish radio a few notes about the whole EU1 crisis (see more on the tags in this blog if you would happen to not have a clue about what that is about). Something among the lines of

"750 people face deportation..." and went on explaining how Ireland interprets the EU laws on its own way, requiring the non-EU spouses of EU citizens to have lived together with their EU spouse before Ireland in another EU country.

750 people face deportation.

As if 750 was a number and nothing more.

750 families are ruined. They have forced my friends to move out of Ireland, and this does not include only the 'sham marriages' involving Polish and Africans (see earlier comments made my immigration and customs at Dublin airport a few entries ago). These include Americans, Canadians ... Birdy moved to UK with his wife, as Ireland did not want to have a UK and US couple to live here. Yet they want all the special treatments for the Irish in UK and in US ...

I guess we were lucky, having got the YES even though we didn't live together in the 'other EU country' before. That YES took 11 months, 5 more than legal, all using that legal case in June as an excuse (despite those legal 6 months expired 1 of February for us).
Lucky to have that yes, but it nevertheless came too late.

And other countries, like Finland, are joining Ireland with their own, similar interpretation of the EU-1 laws. So if you didn't live together somewhere before, then you can't stay even being married ... I guess Finland has it even worse : even for the Finns, to bring a non-EU spouse to stay with, and this being the case mostly for Americans, they need to apply for visas and paperwork that will take a year.

If you are a EU and non-EU married couple, considering to live and move to somewhere in Europe -- save your life, your mind, time, energy and make it easier, move somewhere where they appreciate you and don't see you only as a problem. Don't come to Ireland, and don't go to Finland either.
 
 
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12 July 2007 @ 08:19 pm
And finally, M got the EU-1 visa and residence permits, in the end of June (received the letter and was able to get stamped in July).
Only after 11 months, when the legal limit of Ireland giving that permit and stamp is still 6 months.

Others have not been that lucky. This is the worst. Also Birdy and Mrs Birdy got a negative response, despite one of them being an American. They have since moved to UK where both can work and be happy before they head over to the States.

I no longer feel like Peter Gibbons of Office Space every single day at work. That means I now work somewhere that I actually like, get paid well and hopefully figure what I am supposed to be doing for work.

"We would like to inform you that .." isn't the best choice of words. That is how the approval and positive letter came from the Department of Injustice.

I can't help but wonder how much the country of origin and even skin color matters. Are the South Africans (who tend to be denied despite living here forever) that get denied black or white? And would it be different if one of us two had different skin color?



My paperwork for US visas is going and I expect it to be very slow. M could visit for 10 days, and I did shortly visit parents before he was here. That covers the past few weeks. Now most of my energy is going to learning the new job.
 
 
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1,000 married couples face 'legal fiasco' [link] [via]

1,000 married couples face ‘legal fiasco’
Kitty Holland

An estimated 1,000 married couples face what is being described by the Migrant Rights Centre of Ireland as a “legal fiasco” following a High Court ruling that the Department of Justice is within its rights to insist non-EU spouses of EU citizens live in another member state before being allowed to live and work here.

The European Commission is investigating the stance of the department, it has emerged.

In an unpublished ruling, seen by The Irish Times, Mr Justice Michael Hanna said the Department of Justice was intra vires in demanding that non-EU spouses of EU citizens reside legally in another member state before being eligible for residency here.

Derek Stewart, solicitor for the couple who challenged the department, said at the weekend he would almost certainly appeal to the Supreme Court. He said about 1,000 other couples were affected. With directive 2004/38/EC, the EU ruled three years ago that non-EU family members of EU citizens should be automatically permitted to work and live in the EU.

However, since April last year, under the terms of SI 656/2006, the Department of Justice has demanded that such couples lawfully reside in another EU state first. Among those affected are Natalya Kuzmina (49) from Ukraine, who met her husband, Aivars Vejs (51) from Latvia, while she was working in Co Mayo. She is divorced and has adult children in Ukraine.

He works as a contract cleaner in Dublin and the two met in 2003 when she was visiting a friend in the city.

She had a work permit and moved to Dublin to work in a nursing home. They got married in the Ukraine in April last year.

She says her employer checked with the Department of Enterprise about whether she would need to renew her work permit once she was married and was told she would not.

She applied for residency in April last year and did not get a decision until last month. She has been frustrated by the delay and, unable to work, reliant on her husband’s income. They live in a bedsit in Cabra and had hoped to buy an apartment under the affordable housing scheme.

“We had a loan approval but this is gone now,” says Mr Vejs, shaking his head.

Asked what she does all day, Natalya shrugs and half smiles: “I just cry, shout at him, say ‘Why did we get married’?”

On May 15th, the Department of Justice wrote to her saying that as she had not lived in another member state, her application for residency was refused.

A spokeswoman said the EU Commission office in Dublin had a large number of complaints about the department’s stance.

The EU directive was “silent on whether non-EU family members of EU nationals should have resided in another member state but the spirit and purpose of EU law would appear not to support such a requirement”.

She described delays in processing residency applications as clearly contrary to the provisions of Directive 2004/38/EC.

Jacqueline Healy, acting director of the Migrant Rights Centre, said the position adopted by the department clearly went against the free movement of EU nationals and their families. “At the moment I would say the whole thing is a legal fiasco.”

A spokeswoman for the department said Mr Justice Hanna had vindicated the department. Extra resources were available to reduce delays in processing applications for residency, she added.


Ahern to announce junior ministers in next 48 hours
19/06/2007 - 07:38:22

The Taoiseach Bertie Ahern is expected to announce his new team of junior ministers within the next 48 hours.

Mr Ahern has already indicated that he will be creating a number of new positions in areas such as immigration, education and the elderly.

Two of the new junior ministers are already known, with Dick Roche becoming Minister of State for European Affairs and Green Party leader Trevor Sargent set to become Minister of State for Food.

The rest of the roles are expected to be formally filled at tomorrow's meeting of the Cabinet.

The decision to increase the number of junior ministers has been attacked by the opposition, who say it is a blatant waste of taxpayers' money designed to quell unrest among Fianna Fáil backbenchers.

They have also criticised the Greens and the PDs for acquiescing to the move.


This is a huge thing. I am amazed how little it has received media attention.
Every EU non-Irish citizen that has tried to get their non-EU spouse from the beginning of 2006 to reside with them in Ireland has to go thru this BS.

Until now, the media has been quiet. Non-Irish media, including BBC has been quiet - as if this didn't matter. Maybe the white rich woman syndome would need to be added to get media attention on it. Or to just get it solved for good ...

(And personally - it matters again. I was ready to head to UK, but now that I got a very good job offer in Ireland, it will matter again. I shall remain in Ireland, where my US spouse is not allowed to stay for this EU-1 thing, and he will reside in US where I can not enter until I get my K-3 or green card, which will take a very long time. Being married with your true love, and be forced to live in separate continents involuntarily is a huge thing).
 
 
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McDowell from Irish Department of Injustice has resigned.
He will be remembered for the lack of citizenship rights for non-Irish parents' kids born in Ireland, and for this EU1 crisis. In a country with 10 % of its population foreign, that is a lot of enemies.
 
 
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This is what is happenening in Ireland right now, for thousands of married people. For EU but non-Irish people that are married to a non-EU spouse. They have to get EU1 permit for their family. By EU law, the decision has to be given in 6 months.

In Ireland, this is not happening in six months of time. There are several instances of this process taking longer - nine months, ten months ...

Ireland refuses EU1 applications when the couple has not lived in another EU country prior to moving to Ireland.

This is one of the saddest stories I have seen about this EU1 thing for a while : after paying taxes for Ireland for the past 6 years, and his wife 11 years, Ireland gives a negative answer for EU1 for a South African - Italian couple. I feel so bad for them. After so long time here they still get that shit.

The media does not seem to want to take action in this injustice. The embassies of the EU spouse don't often give a shit about this this happening - I called my embassy when both the USCIS crisis and the EU1 issue got the worst - and they did not give a damn about it. You'll be at your own.

My advice for any EU citizen married to a non-EU citizen : live in any country but Ireland. You will save yourself one year of severe depression, of economical burden of one spouse having to work for two ...
 
 
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29 April 2007 @ 01:29 am
Regarding the EU1 visa still (when a EU but non-Irish, living in Ireland, married to a non-EU person, .. gets the spouse in Ireland, the non-EU spouse will need to apply for Eu1- visa, and the government has the legal right to sit on their documents including original marriage certificate, passport, drivers license etc. All documents need to be original, and even though they can be asked to be sent back earlier on request, they are very hard to reach, and often despite asking the documents back several times, they will not be sent back earlier but much after this 6 months. During all this time, only the EU spouse can work) :

McDowell publishes Immigration Bill
Foreign nationals legally resident in the State will have to carry a credit card-sized permit containing biometric information under legislation published today by the Government.

The Immigration Bill, published by Minister for Justice Michael McDowell, outlines the basis upon which foreign nationals can lawfully reside in the State.

Under the legislation, the permit will be required as a means of verifying whether a foreign national is lawfully in the State.

According to the Department of Justice, those who do not qualify for legal status will "be liable to be removed summarily and detained if necessary to ensure removal" [from the State].

Govt to publish details of new Immigration Bill
GNIB provides only 1 year stamps when they are supposed to give 5 years stamps, thus they can charge 5 x 100 Euros for the stamps ... illegally
EU court Case on Friday - how long to implement changes?
EU 1 form - are they making fun of all of us?
EU 1 - Has anyone got a response in the last 4 weeks?

So after they have sat 7 months on your document (anything more than 6 months is illegal, as if they would care) and months of waiting for updates .. this court case on Friday 27.04 was supposed to give some solution. They postponed the court date to mid June.

Those who did get a positive answer for their EU1, got the right for a 5 years stamp in their passport. Ireland nevertheless provides 1 year stamps only, again not by what your rights provide you. And they charge 100 euros for each of these stamps on your passport.

If you are EU citizen but not Irish, and married to a non-EU citizen, to not go thru all this BS, don't move to this country. This is so bullshit.